Room Conversation with Jaidayal Dalmia
Date: Nov. 2, 1977
#Prabhupāda: Jaya. [Hindi]
Jaidayal Dalmia: [Hindi]
Prabhupāda: [Hindi about the Gītā conference with guest] There is good demand all over the world. [Hindi] “Kṛṣṇa is not person; Kṛṣṇa is consciousness.” [Hindi] Kṛṣṇa personally speaking, and “He is consciousness.” He says, yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata [Bg. 4.7] = “I come down.” [Hindi] Māyāvādī. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has condemned, māyāvādi-bhāṣya śunile haya sarva-nāśa [Cc. Madhya 6.169]. Caitanya-caritāmṛta he. [Hindi] Yogaḥ proktaḥpurātanaḥ [Bg. 4.3]. Kṛṣṇa said that “I am speaking to you the old yoga system.” [Hindi] …not my interpretation. [Hindi] [break] Kṛṣṇa is person. Where is that verse in the Tenth Canto?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In the Bhagavad-gītā?
Prabhupāda: Paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān [Bg. 10.12].
Jayādvaita: Tenth Chapter.
paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma
pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān
puruṣaṁ śāśvataṁ divyam
ādi-devam ajaṁ vibhum
Prabhupāda: Puruṣaṁ śāśvatam. Govindam ādi-puruṣam. [break] This is understanding of Bhagavad-gītā. But they’ll not do that. What can be done? They cannot preach Bhagavad-gītā. Sarvam etad ṛtaṁ manye [Bg. 10.14]. Next line?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yan māṁ vadasi keśava, na hi te bhagavan vyaktiṁ vidur devā na dānavāḥ.
Prabhupāda: Ah. [Hindi] “I have come personally.” Yadā yadā hi dharmasya [Bg. 4.7]. Bhagavad-gītā. [Hindi] …as it is. [Hindi] Bhagavad-gītā as it is, never say it. [Hindi] …imagination… [Hindi] Simply waste of time. Śrama eva hi kevalam [SB 1.2.8]. Vāsudeve bhagavati bhakti-yogaḥprayojitaḥ, janayaty āśu vairāgyam [SB 1.2.7]. Janayaty āśu vairāgyam. [Hindi] Yaḥ śāstra-vidhim utsṛjya vartate kāma-kārataḥ, na siddhiṁ sāvāpnoti [Bg. 16.23]. [Hindi] Śrama eva hi kevalam. [Hindi with guest] There is good demand all over the world. [Hindi about American devotees] Nobody can turn them now. Jaya. Thank you very much.
Bhakti-caru: Śrīla Prabhupāda? [Bengali] [end]
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