Morning Walk — May 2, 1974, Bombay:
Giriraj Swami: Another thing we were discussing yesterday is that in Goloka there are no demons.
Prabhupāda: No. There cannot be any demons. Then how it is Vaikuṇṭha? Vaikuṇṭha means without any anxiety. So the situation of anxiety is created by the demons.
Therefore, when Kṛṣṇa wants to fight, He has to come down here because there is no question of fighting. There is no chance of fighting. Everyone is devotee. A devotee will never agree. But they will agree Kṛṣṇa’s fight, but here, in this field.
Girirāja: But the sentiment of anxiety or fear for Kṛṣṇa, is that sentiment in Goloka?
Prabhupāda: No. There is no such thing. That is separation. Just like gopīs, they are full of anxiety: “Oh, Kṛṣṇa has gone to the pasturing ground.” Their anxiety is there.
Just like Rukmiṇī, she was thinking, “Oh, Kṛṣṇa may not give me up. He is talking in this way.” She fainted. So anxiety is there.
So the anxiety is that one may not be separated from Kṛṣṇa. That is the anxiety. And actually there is no separation, but the feeling of separation out of ecstatic love. Just like one who has got love for the other person, beloved, he always thinks like that, “My beloved may not be separated from me.”
This is ecstasy of love. Just like a miser man who has got much wealth, he always thinks, “My money may not be lost. My money may not be lost.” Out of his too much attachment for the money, he thinks like that. Is it not? “How shall I protect this money? How shall I protect this?”
To earn money is also troublesome. To keep money also troublesome. And when it is lost, that is also troublesome. This is the position. But there is no such thing, loss, but the anxiety is there.
We shall return from here? (break) …vināśāya ca duṣkṛtām. So both the sādhu and the duṣkṛtina, by Kṛṣṇa’s two activities, act differently to the devotees and to the demons. They realize. That is their achievement.
By punishment, this Kāliya realized, “Oh, Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord.” And devotees, by out of love, they realize. Therefore Kṛṣṇa is Absolute.
In either process He is realized. Mama vartmānuvartante manuṣyāḥ pārtha sarvaśaḥ. If one is sincere, then they gradually make progress. Yes. (break) …vināśāya ca duṣkṛtām.
Girirāja: “O Lord, You have descended especially for the purpose of annihilating all kinds of disturbing elements within the world, and because You are the Absolute Truth, there is no difference between Your mercy and punishment.” Morning Walk — May 2, 1974, Bombay:
Romapada Swami – ”The Lord enacts His pastimes in both the material and spiritual worlds. The demons are present only in the material world.
Our acaryas describe that in the spiritual world there are only “rumors of demons”; that is to say, the bhava of intensified shelter-taking is present as if there were real demons present, but there are not demons in Goloka.
We shouldn’t think that Krsna is somehow disturbed by the demons. They are tiny, insignificant creatures whom Krsna can easily kill with His material energy if He so desires, without being directly involved.
But sometimes for sake of lila — showing His devotee that Krishna will protect them, but first intensifying their shelter-taking spirit, PLUS enhancing His own happiness by engaging in chivalrous activity, He allows them to become relatively powerful in the material world.
His fighting with them is, in this way, both for His own pleasure and the pleasure of His devotees.
The Supreme Personality of Godhead has all the tendencies that may be found in the living entity, for He is the chief living entity. Therefore it is natural that sometimes the Lord wants to fight.
Just as He has the tendencies to create, to enjoy, to be a friend, to accept a mother and father, and so on, He also has the tendency to fight. Sometimes important landlords and kings keep wrestlers with whom they practice mock fighting; Krsna makes similar arrangements.
The demons who fight with the Supreme Personality of Godhead in the material world are sometimes His associates. In exceptional cases, when there is a scarcity of demons and the Lord wants to fight, He instigates some of His associates of Vaikuntha to come and play as demons.
Examples are that of Jaya and Vijaya who descended to this world to fulfill the Lord’s desire. Therefore in each of their three births- Hiranyaksa and Hiranyakasipu, second as Ravana and Kumbhakarna, and third as Sisupala and Dantavakra – the Lord personally killed them.
While it is said that Sisupala merged into the body of Krsna, it should be noted that in this case he was not Jaya or Vijaya; he was actually a demon”. http://www.romapadaswami.com/node/17675
Satsvarupa Maharaja – “You have some idea what it’s like in Goloka from the Tenth Canto and from the Gaudiya Vaisnava acharyas of Lord Caitanya.
Everyone is in topmost bliss, and some are crying in separation from Krishna. The relationships with Krishna are not in awe and reverence but intimate and friendly.
They play all the time, and when He comes to the earth planet, demons come to kill Him.
There are no demons in Goloka Vrndavana, only rumors of demons. Krishna is the paramour lover of the gopis, and Radharani is the topmost queen”.
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