{"id":53783,"date":"2024-05-22T01:09:57","date_gmt":"2024-05-22T05:09:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/?p=53783"},"modified":"2024-05-21T22:59:35","modified_gmt":"2024-05-22T02:59:35","slug":"did-srila-bhaktisiddhanta-say-that-we-do-not-need-preachers-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/did-srila-bhaktisiddhanta-say-that-we-do-not-need-preachers-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Did Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Say That We Do Not Need Preachers?"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_53784\" class=\"thumbnail wp-caption alignright\" style=\"width: 300px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bhaktisiddhanta_and_Governor_of_Bengal_John_Anderson-1024x877-1.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-53784 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bhaktisiddhanta_and_Governor_of_Bengal_John_Anderson-1024x877-1-300x257.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"257\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bhaktisiddhanta_and_Governor_of_Bengal_John_Anderson-1024x877-1-300x257.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bhaktisiddhanta_and_Governor_of_Bengal_John_Anderson-1024x877-1-768x658.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/Bhaktisiddhanta_and_Governor_of_Bengal_John_Anderson-1024x877-1.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"caption wp-caption-text\">Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur and the Governor of Bengal, John Anderson<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">Quote from Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati:<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">&#8220;The world is in no need of any reformer. The world has a very competent person for guiding its minutest happenings. The person who finds that there is scope for reform of the world, himself stands in need of reform. The world goes on in its own perfect way. No person can deflect it by the breadth of a hair from the course chalked out for it by providence&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">What is necessary is to change our outlook to this very world&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">The scriptures declare that it is only necessary to listen with an open mind to the name of Krishna from the lips of a bona fide devotee.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">As soon as Krishna enters the listening ear, He clears up the vision of the listener so that he no longer has any ambition of ever acting the part of a reformer of any other person, because he finds that nobody is left without the very highest guidance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">It is therefore his own reform that occurs by the grace of God, whose supreme necessity and nature he is increasingly able to realize by the eternally continuing mercy of the Supreme Lord.<a href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\"><sup>[1]<\/sup><\/a>&#8220;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">Answer:<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">First of all we should verify if this article was written by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Maharaja in English and not in Bengali.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">If he wrote it in Bengali, then we should verify who the translator was and if the translation is correct.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">It is not enough to know a language to be able to translate this kind of article, especially by such an ingenious philosopher as His Divine Grace.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">For one, I would like to know what the word \u201cprovidence\u201d means.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">Providence is a word much used in Christian culture that doesn\u2019t mean anything in our philosophy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">Everything happens either as a result of our past actions or by the special will of the Supreme Lord on His devotees.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">There is not such a thing as \u201cprovidence\u201d in the common meaning. Providence is a way to throwing the responsibility on God of things we did and for which we are taking the just reaction. But this is not our philosophy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">Then we should read the whole article to understand the historical context. You are sending me only an extract. What reformer was Srila Sarasvati talking about?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">For instance we know that when Srila Prabhupada met Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja he told him that he liked Gandhi\u2019s political movement, but Srila Bhaktisiddhanta was not at all impressed by Gandhi. He said something similar to what he is writing in this article, that we do not need reformers (political, religious, philosophical). Even in our lifetime we see people and even devotees who, not being satisfied enough with simply chanting Hare Krishna, go around inventing new concepts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">We do not need new things.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">We need Krishna consciousness.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">Then Srila Bhaktisiddhanta goes on describing the process of sravanam kirtanan visnoh smaranam that we find in Srimad-Bhagavatam<a href=\"#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\"><sup>[2]<\/sup><\/a>, which means:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">First you hear from the lips of a pure devotee the Holy Name (sravanam), then you repeat it (kirtanam) and then you\u2019ll remember Krishna (visnoh smaranam).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">This remembering is Krishna consciousness.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">Let\u2019s continue with the example we were using before.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">If Gandhi had heard the holy name from the lips of a pure devotee he would not have desired to have been the reformer of anybody, because Krishna does not abandon His sons (the jivas) in this material world. He is present in the heart of everybody (as Paramatma) and outside as the bonafide spiritual master.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">Certainly the \u201creformer\u201d that Srila Bhaktisiddhanta is saying that we do not need is not the pure devotee.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">In fact he stated only one line above that, \u201cthe scriptures declare that it is only necessary to listen with an open mind to the name of Krishna from the lips of a bona fide devotee.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">So if this pure devotee does not preach, how would the people be able to listen to him?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">If we do not need preachers, and Krishna does it all from the heart, why did Srila Bhaktisiddhanta send Srila Prabhupada to the West? Why did he try to send other disciples to Great Britain? Why did he write so much? Why has Lord Caitanya initiated the sankirtana movement? Why has Vyasadeva come and written so many books?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">I could go on and on ad infinitum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">In conclusion the highest work one can do in life is preaching, namely spreading this wonderful philosophy of Krishna consciousness. There is no more noble activity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">sarvatra pracara haibe mora nama<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">\u201cIn every town and village, the chanting of My name will be heard.\u201d<a href=\"#_ftn3\" name=\"_ftnref3\"><sup>[3]<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\"><a href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\"><sup>[1]<\/sup><\/a> From an article in Sajjana Toshani in the May 1932 issue, No.11 The article is called &#8220;Sri Chaitanya in South India&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\"><a href=\"#_ftnref2\" name=\"_ftn2\"><sup>[2]<\/sup><\/a> 7.5.23-24<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\"><a href=\"#_ftnref3\" name=\"_ftn3\"><sup>[3]<\/sup><\/a> Caitanya-bhagavata, Antya-lila 4.126<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\">This is a section of the book \u201cBrilliant as the Sun\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">To buy the complete book,<\/span><span class=\"apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000; text-decoration: underline;\"><a style=\"color: #ff0000; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.kadachaeditions.com\/art\/brilliant-as-the-sun-english\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">click above<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quote from Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati: &#8220;The world is in no need of any reformer. 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