{"id":3925,"date":"2019-05-21T14:42:39","date_gmt":"2019-05-21T18:42:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/?p=3925"},"modified":"2021-12-17T01:04:02","modified_gmt":"2021-12-17T06:04:02","slug":"devotees-should-not-pay-for-initiation-or-any-other-krishna-conscious-item","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/devotees-should-not-pay-for-initiation-or-any-other-krishna-conscious-item\/","title":{"rendered":"More on “devotees should not pay for initiation or any other Krishna conscious item”"},"content":{"rendered":"

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There is a discussion in my Whatsapp group on this topic. I already sent some short messages but I wanted to say something more.<\/p>\n

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Nobody should \u201cpay\u201d for anything in Krishna Consciousness. Not for the prasadam, not for coming to the temple, and certainly not for receiving initiation.
\nEverything is and must be free of charge.<\/p>\n

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Srila Prabhupada says that a Brahmana who asks for a salary or accepts a salary is no better than a dog.<\/p>\n

“Those who give education in exchange of money, they are not brahmanas. Just like we are lecturing, educated, educating people. We don’t say that ‘Give us salary.’ We simply ask them, ‘Please come.’ Therefore we are making food. I’ll give you food. I’ll give you good seat. Please come and hear. We are not asking money, that ‘First of all pay the fees. Then you come and learn Bhagavad-gita.’ We never say so. So those, these so-called teachers, they first of all set up salary, ‘What salary you’ll give me?’ That is dog’s business. That is not brahmana’s business. Brahmana will never ask. Brahmana is eager to give lesson only. That’s all. Brahmana is eager to see that people are educated. ‘Take free education and be educated. Be a human being.’ This is brahmana’s business. I came here not to ask for any money. But I want to give lesson. This is brahmana’s business.”
\n(Srila Prabhupada Conversation, Paris, June 11, 1974)<\/p>\n

And:
\n\u201cSo this Canakya Pandita, although he was prime minister, he maintained his brahminical spirit. He was not accepting any salary, yes, because for brahmanas to accept salary, it is understood that he becomes a dog. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam.\u201d
\n(Srila Prabhupada Conversation, Moscow, June 22, 1971)<\/p>\n

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I think these declarations from our main Acarya settles the point.<\/p>\n

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However there is a second completing perspective that comes from the Bhagavad-gita and from Acaryas like Rupa Gosvami.
\nbrahma\u1e47y \u0101dh\u0101ya karm\u0101\u1e47i
\nsa\u1e45ga\u1e41 tyaktv\u0101 karoti ya\u1e25
\nlipyate na sa p\u0101pena
\npadma-patram iv\u0101mbhas\u0101
\n\u201cOne who performs his duty without attachment, surrendering the results unto the Supreme Lord, is unaffected by sinful action, as the lotus leaf is untouched by water.\u201d
\nBrahmanyadhaya karmani means that we should give the result of what we do to Krishna.
\nAnd kama-karena phale saktah nibadhyate. Those who just enjoy the results of their work without give some to Krishna becomes entangled.<\/p>\n

Therefore those who have some money should give it for worthy causes. They should give to Krishna, to the Guru, to the temple, to the Deities.
\nNot in the mentality of \u201cpaying\u201d for anything, but as a donation, a way to give back a part of what he received from the Lord.
\nThose who have but don\u2019t give will remain entangled in maya.<\/p>\n

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Also money is not the only thing that we can give to Krishna. You can give anything you have. Even a flower, some water, a fruit. But give it with devotion.
\nLike here in Puerto Rico we have a devotee who brings some flower everytime he comes and another who brings fruit. This is called devotion.
\npatra\u1e41 pu\u1e63pa\u1e41 phala\u1e41 toya\u1e41
\nyo me bhakty\u0101 prayacchati
\ntad aha\u1e41 bhakty-upah\u1e5btam
\na\u015bn\u0101mi prayat\u0101tmana\u1e25
\n\u201cIf one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, a fruit or water, I will accept it.\u201d (Bhagavad-gita 9.26).<\/p>\n

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– Manonatha Dasa (ACBSP)
\n21 May 2019<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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