{"id":3820,"date":"2019-05-11T16:06:02","date_gmt":"2019-05-11T20:06:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/?p=3820"},"modified":"2019-05-11T16:14:11","modified_gmt":"2019-05-11T20:14:11","slug":"how-a-disciple-should-see-his-spiritual-master","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/how-a-disciple-should-see-his-spiritual-master\/","title":{"rendered":"How a disciple should see his spiritual master"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014-06-25-10.13.08.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-3821\" src=\"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014-06-25-10.13.08-300x197.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"197\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014-06-25-10.13.08-300x197.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014-06-25-10.13.08-410x270.jpg 410w, https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014-06-25-10.13.08-364x239.jpg 364w, https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014-06-25-10.13.08.jpg 720w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000\">Question<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>One time a Devotee told me that my Guru Maharaj is not an ordinary man. of course he was referring to You. so when he said that my first impression was that you are a very elevated Devotee. but it also gives me the impression that he was describing You as a demigod or something like that . he gave me the impression that my Guru Maharaj is somewhat like A Superman. or You are super human and I am confused that my Guru Maharaj is not an ordinary man? I am speculating that as a Devotee You are a very humble person so I don\u2019t think that you would say that You are a demigod or superhuman. so can you please tell me what he meant when he said that my guru Maharaj is not an ordinary man? thank you very much<\/p>\n<p>Your servant<br \/>\nBhakta Richard<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000\"><strong>Answer<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Dear Bhakta Richard,<br \/>\nPlease receive my blessings. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.<\/p>\n<p>Probably the devotee was refering to the following verse:<br \/>\nacaryam mam vijaniyan<br \/>\nnavamanyeta karhicit<br \/>\nna martya-buddhyasuyeta<br \/>\nsarva-deva-mayo guruh<br \/>\nOne should know the acarya as Myself and never disrespect him in any way. One should not envy him, thinking him an ordinary man, for he is the representative of all the demigods.<br \/>\n(Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.17.27)<\/p>\n<p>Acaryam mam vijaniyan. The meaning of this phrase is that the Guru is a most loved servant of Krishna because he is trying to lead the fallen souls back to Godhead. Wanting everybody back, Krishna gives some of His sakti even to non pure devotee to carry out His mission. More advanced is the devotee, more of Krishna\u2019s mercy will be visible and effective.<br \/>\nBut the Guru is not God. Since the spiritual master is very much loved, Krishna says, he is like Me. It is the expression of someone in love. Just like people says, \u201cmy son is me\u201d, \u201cmy friend is me\u201d, \u201cmy beloved is me\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Na avamanyeta karhicit, one should never disrespect the spiritual master.<br \/>\nNa martya-buddhya, by thinking that he is an ordinary man. Martya-loka is this world, the world of death.<\/p>\n<p>So if the Guru is not an ordinary man, what is he?<br \/>\nIf you would ask any very advanced devotee he will answer, \u201cI am only a humble servant of my spiritual master\u201d.<br \/>\nThe peculiarity of this answer is that he doesn\u2019t think, \u201cnow I\u2019ll say to my disciple I am very fallen, he will think to the contrary and I\u2019ll be glorified not only because I am a Guru but also because I am humble\u201d.<br \/>\nNo, he actually thinks to be \u201ca humble servant of his spiritual master\u201d.<br \/>\nAs he advances in spiritual life, a devotee will loose all interest in being recognized by others, he will gradually loose contact with the external world and will live internally in the spiritual world. This interior state of being will be characterized by gentleness and humbleness.<\/p>\n<p>And sarva-deva-maya. The Devas are servants of Krishna and represent Him. So the Guru represents all servants of Krishna. He is gopi-bhartur pada-kamalayor dasa-dasa-dasanudasah, the servant of the servants of the servants.<\/p>\n<p>But your question is not how a Guru sees himself, but how the disciples should see him.<\/p>\n<p>He should see him as the Srimad-Bhagavatam verse says. The disciple should serve and learn with the idea that he is very lucky to have been in contact with such a mahatma (great personality).<\/p>\n<p>Although the Guru thinks of himself as lowly, he will respect the service he received and act as a Guru should.<br \/>\nAny bonafide spiritual master accepted this service because his spiritual master asked him to do it. So he\u2019ll carry on his preaching as a duty, taking the mood of a Guru, again, out of duty. When he receives honors he will accept them.<br \/>\nHe may not like it, but he must accept them.<\/p>\n<p>The reason is that there is nothing worse in a preacher\u2019s life than to deprive a sincere devotee of his opportunity to serve a Guru. If the Guru doesn\u2019t act as a Guru, the disciple will never learn to be a disciple. So he may have a spiritual name, received upanayana or a tridanda but he never really was a disciple, he was a bad disciple.<\/p>\n<p>So a bad disciple will be a bad guru, and in this way the parampara will be interrupted, which is a disastrous outcoming.<\/p>\n<p>So a Guru does not, out of shyness, fail to give opportunities of service and learning to the disciple, and the disciple should go searching for any way to give personal service to the spiritual master.<\/p>\n<p>This is the only way for advancement in spiritual life.<br \/>\nAs Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura sung:<br \/>\nyasya prasadad bhagavat-prasado<br \/>\nyasyaprasadan na gatih kuto \u2019pi<br \/>\ndhyayan stuvams tasya yasas tri-sandhyam<br \/>\nvande guroh sri-caranaravindam<br \/>\n\u201cBy the mercy of the spiritual master one receives the benediction of Krishna.<br \/>\nWithout the grace of the spiritual master, one cannot make any advancement.<br \/>\nTherefore, I should always remember and praise the spiritual master.<br \/>\nAt least three times a day I should offer my respectful obeisances unto the lotus feet of my spiritual master.\u201d<br \/>\n(Sri Sri Gurvastakam #8)<\/p>\n<p>Therefore the disciple should see his spiritual master as the representative of the Guru Parampara and of Krishna, will give him all honors, will diligently study the Vedas under him and offer service.<br \/>\nAnd how? Samit panih. With sami wood in his hands. This is a Vedic image to suggest service and humbleness.<br \/>\nYasyaprasadan na gatih kuto \u2019pi, there is no other way.<\/p>\n<p>Your well-wisher<br \/>\nManonatha Dasa (ACBSP)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question One time a Devotee told me that my Guru Maharaj is not an ordinary man. of course he was referring to You. so when he said that my first impression was that you are a &hellip; <a class=\"kt-excerpt-readmore\" href=\"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/how-a-disciple-should-see-his-spiritual-master\/\" aria-label=\"How a disciple should see his spiritual master\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":3821,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3820","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-english"],"publishpress_future_action":{"enabled":false,"date":"2026-04-29 00:30:39","action":"change-status","newStatus":"draft","terms":[],"taxonomy":"category","extraData":[]},"publishpress_future_workflow_manual_trigger":{"enabledWorkflows":[]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3820","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3820"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3820\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3821"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3820"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3820"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3820"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}