{"id":21461,"date":"2020-10-09T16:45:25","date_gmt":"2020-10-09T20:45:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/?p=21461"},"modified":"2022-01-19T01:17:38","modified_gmt":"2022-01-19T06:17:38","slug":"four-vaisnava-sampradayas-notes-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/four-vaisnava-sampradayas-notes-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Four Vaisnava Sampradayas &#8211; notes 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>When RN returned, he saw the house was empty and his wife&#8217;s nervousness. RK<br \/>\ntried to explain by beginning, &#8220;That woman is too proud.&#8221; When he understood<br \/>\nwhat had happened he just ran out of the house trying to find MP and wife.<br \/>\nFailing that, he came back and just said, &#8220;You&#8217;ve had your third chance.&#8221; She<br \/>\nstarted weeping and pleaded, &#8220;Please forgive me. I am a foolish woman. It is<br \/>\nso difficult to overcome my nature. You must protect me, otherwise how will I<br \/>\nlive? If you leave me, I&#8217;ll jump in the well!&#8221; He said, &#8220;Don&#8217;t contaminate<br \/>\nour well. I am going to the temple now. Just compose yourself &#8211; we&#8217;ll talk<br \/>\nabout this another time.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>RN went to the temple and arranged for one brahmin to go to his house and take<br \/>\nprasadam. That brahmin felt very reluctant, because he knew well RK&#8217;s<br \/>\nreputation as a shrew. Standing outside the door, he announced himself as a<br \/>\nbrahmin and told RK that he&#8217;d come only on RN&#8217;s order. But she said, &#8220;Oh, I<br \/>\nam too confused right now to cook anything. Can you not please go somewhere<br \/>\nelse?&#8221; Relieved, the brahmin left, but because he didn&#8217;t want to be further<br \/>\nentangled in Ramanuja&#8217;s household troubles, he loitered in a stinky land where<br \/>\npoop was passed.<\/p>\n<p>When that brahmin didn&#8217;t return, RN could guess what had happened. He went<br \/>\nsearching for him and found him in the stinky lane. This time he sent the<br \/>\nbrahmin back with a new sari, bangles, fruits and flowers. His story was, &#8220;I<br \/>\nforgot to tell you last time that I have come from your home town. Your<br \/>\nfather has sent me here to tell you your brother is getting married. These<br \/>\nthings are for you. Just take them and I will go.&#8221; &#8220;No, no!&#8221; she said,<br \/>\nsuddenly brightening. &#8220;I will cook for you. You please come in!&#8221; After<br \/>\nserving him nicely, she said, &#8220;Please go to the temple and inform my husband<br \/>\nthat I have fed you. Ask him to send me home so that I can attend my<br \/>\nbrother&#8217;s marriage.&#8221; RN returned home, showing happiness at his wife&#8217;s<br \/>\nbehavior. He sent her to her father&#8217;s home, telling her he&#8217;d also come after<br \/>\na few days. After she was gone, he took sannyasa from Vadiraja, Who said, &#8220;I<br \/>\nam known as Varadaraja (king of benedictors). Now you will be known as<br \/>\nYatiraja.&#8221; Varadaraja told KP to put RN up in an old monastery.<\/p>\n<p>After 3 days, 600 Vaisnavas had moved into that monastery. RN sent a note to<br \/>\nSailapurna that he should help RN&#8217;s cousin-brother Govinda (now a known as<br \/>\nShivacharya). YP&#8217;s mother saw RN one day and told YP to go surrender to him.<br \/>\n&#8220;Advaitism is useless&#8221;, she said. &#8220;You were always confused.&#8221; YP said, &#8220;Only<br \/>\nin time will I do that.&#8221; That night Varadaraja came to him in a dream, or so<br \/>\nYP thought until VR showed him the whole universe. &#8220;I am brahman&#8221;, VR<br \/>\ndeclared. &#8220;Why are you doing all this?&#8221; asked YP. &#8220;Because you won&#8217;t follow<br \/>\nyour mother. You just go ahead and do it. I will help you from within your<br \/>\nheart.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Next morning, YP had a kind of nervous attack. &#8220;I&#8217;m a lizard!&#8221; He cried<br \/>\naloud, and ran to RN in a disheveled state. RN fell at his feet. YP began<br \/>\nputting questions to him: &#8220;Why do you put on this tilaka? Why do you worship<br \/>\nshilas? Why did Varadaraja show His universal form to me? Where is all this<br \/>\nin sastra?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>RN called KP and asked him to explain the Vaisnava-siddhanta to YP. YP cried,<br \/>\n&#8220;I am an offender! Where can I take shelter?&#8221; He went back to his mother and<br \/>\nsaid, &#8220;I touched his feet. Now I shall circumambulate the earth to be<br \/>\nrelieved of my offenses.&#8221; His mother said, &#8220;You are still confused &#8211; you just<br \/>\ncircumambulate RN.&#8221; So YP went back to RN and did that, and RN gave him<br \/>\ninitiation as Govinda dasa Swami; he told him to write a book on tridandi<br \/>\nsannyasa.<\/p>\n<p>Through his chief priest, Sri Ranganatha called Mahapurna and told him that<br \/>\nsomehow or other RN must come to SR. Ranganatha told his temple dancer, Sri<br \/>\nRanga Purna, to go to Kanchi and please Vadiraja. &#8220;I can go without<br \/>\nentertainment for a few days, but I cannot go on without RN. Ask Varadaraja<br \/>\nto release RN from His service and allow him to come to Sri Rangam.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>SRP went to Kanchi and danced for VR for 3 days straight. The Deity asked him<br \/>\nwhy he was doing this. &#8220;If You want me to stop, You&#8217;ve got to give me what I<br \/>\nwant.&#8221; &#8220;What? You can&#8217;t force Me.&#8221; &#8220;No, how can I force? I&#8217;ll just go on<br \/>\ndancing.&#8221; &#8220;Alright, I&#8217;ll give you anything except Laxmi.&#8221; But when he asked<br \/>\nfor RN the Lord adamantly refused. SRP returned, and Lord Ranganatha<br \/>\ncommented, &#8220;This Varadaraja is too proud.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Back in Kanchi, KP, who had been teaching RN, thought he should go to MP and<br \/>\nlearn more. KP asked VR, who replied &#8220;How can you ask Me for this?&#8221; KP said,<br \/>\n&#8220;You just give RN two forms that he can stay and yet go.&#8221; And KP told RN<br \/>\nafterwards, &#8220;Yes, now you may go and stay.&#8221; When RN walked into the Sri<br \/>\nRangam temple, Ranganatha took 4 steps in his direction.<\/p>\n<p>RN called the Lord Ranganatha, and Ranganatha called him Mannatha (&#8220;My lord.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>RN took instructions from MP. MP told him to get a mantra from Gosthipurna.<br \/>\nGP put RN off 18 times. Finally RN got initiation into the secret mantra.<br \/>\nImmediately afterwards he climbed up to the top of the Nrsingha temple and<br \/>\nshouted &#8220;Om Namo Narayanaya&#8221;, asking everyone to chant it. Some of GP&#8217;s<br \/>\ndisciples stopped him and said, &#8220;Your are going to hell, but before that, you<br \/>\nshould see GP.&#8221; GP was MAD! But then he was pleased, because he actually<br \/>\nunderstood RN&#8217;s real purpose. He then gave him Charanaopaya initiation (B.g.<br \/>\n18.66 initiation).<\/p>\n<p>Ramanuja&#8217;s Gurus<\/p>\n<p>Vartmapradarsaka-guru: Kanchipurna<br \/>\nDiksa- and siksa-guru: Mahapurna<br \/>\nMantra-diksa-guru: Gosthipurna<br \/>\nDivyaprabandha-siksa-guru: Maladhara<br \/>\nSiksa-guru for confidential truths: Sri Rangapurna<br \/>\nRamayana-siksa-guru: Sailapurna (RN&#8217;s uncle)<\/p>\n<p>Sri Rangam was flooded with devotees. RN sent some devotees to Kalahasti to<br \/>\ncorrect his brother Govinda. G now had matted locks, wore ashes, and was<br \/>\ndaily engaged in gathering flowers for puja of Siva. Sailapurna stopped<br \/>\nGovinda while he was bringing water for puja and asked him, &#8220;What&#8217;s the use of<br \/>\npouring cold water on a hot head?&#8221; SP also wrote some verses and dropped them<br \/>\nat a place where Govinda walked. G picked up the leaf and a conversation<br \/>\nensued between them, spoken in cryptic terms, over the proper object of<br \/>\nworship. After that, SP used to give class near the tree where G would pick<br \/>\nhis flowers for worship. SP would deliberately preach KC very loudly; one<br \/>\nday, just before G climbed the tree, he asked SP, &#8220;Are you so sure that no-one<br \/>\nelse is worshippable?&#8221; SP answered, &#8220;Natra samsaya&#8221; thrice. Hearing the class<br \/>\nup in the tree, he cried aloud, &#8220;I&#8217;ve wasted my life!&#8221; when SP said that one<br \/>\nwastes his life by not serving Visnu. G fell out of the tree. On the spot,<br \/>\nSP initiated him.<\/p>\n<p>The Saivites came running up as G was going with SP back to Sri Rangam. &#8220;Where<br \/>\nare you going? You&#8217;re our acarya!&#8221; G said, &#8220;Look, just forget about me now.&#8221;<br \/>\nThey turned to SP: &#8220;What did you do to him?&#8221; Then to G: &#8220;Did they hex you,<br \/>\nthese Vaisnavas?&#8221; G: &#8220;Go ask Lord Siva.&#8221; So for 3 days they fasted. Siva<br \/>\nappeared in their dreams and said, &#8220;He&#8217;s not my servant, he&#8217;s a servant of the<br \/>\nSupreme Lord Visnu, and so am I.&#8221; Siva then quoted sastra to support Visnu&#8217;s<br \/>\nsupremacy, but concluded, &#8220;You can&#8217;t understand. RN is the amsa of Sesa, and<br \/>\nG is the amsa of Garuda. Let him go and leave him be. I&#8217;ll take care of you.<br \/>\nYou are confused, as are all my devotees. I only wanted his association, but<br \/>\nnow RN is calling him away. It&#8217;s alright, don&#8217;t worry.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When Maladhara was teaching RN the Divyaprabandhas, RN would interrupt to<br \/>\ncorrect his explanations. So MD stopped the class. When Gosthipurna heard<br \/>\nthat, he asked MD why he&#8217;d stopped teaching RN, and MD said, &#8220;Oh, he has his<br \/>\nown meanings for the Divyaprabandhas.&#8221; GP asked, &#8220;Tell me these explanations<br \/>\nof his.&#8221; When he heard them, he was in ecstasy. &#8220;Only YA himself knows these<br \/>\nmeanings!&#8221; he exclaimed. When class thereafter resumed, MD forgot some<br \/>\nexplanations; RN spoke at length on them for 3 days.<\/p>\n<p>RN went to Rangapurna&#8217;s house to get secret instructions. RN made milk for<br \/>\nRP, like a servant in the kitchen. When he tasted it, RP exclaimed &#8220;Only YA<br \/>\ncan make milk like this!&#8221; RN would massage, clean, wash and do all menial<br \/>\nservices for RP. One day RP called RN a robber: &#8220;You&#8217;ve come to steal!&#8221; RN<br \/>\nsaid, &#8220;I am serving, not asking for anything.&#8221; In this way he went on for 30<br \/>\ndays. On 31st day RP said, &#8220;I am so pleased with you I must give you this<br \/>\nsecret knowledge of the 5th process of devotional service, called upadya &#8211;<br \/>\ntaking shelter of the guru.&#8221; RP lectured for 7 days on upadya, establishing<br \/>\nit as the most important process of devotional service.<\/p>\n<p>When RN returned from RP&#8217;s place, he called for a big meeting and proclaimed a<br \/>\nstrict schedule for Deity worship. In the course of 24 hours each day, 1000<br \/>\nclasses on sastra were held at the temple. 12000 disciples were fed daily; a<br \/>\ncanal of ghee flowed to the kitchen. Nobody came to Sri Rangam without<br \/>\nwearing tilaka.<\/p>\n<p>One Yajnamurti from Kasi collected religionists opposed to Vaisnavism and<br \/>\narrived at Rangaksetra with 68 disciples and 1000 bullock carts of books. RN<br \/>\ngave him nice accommodation. On stage before everyone they argued. RN asked<br \/>\nin the beginning, what will you do if I defeat you &#8211; I&#8217;ll take your feet on my<br \/>\nhead and wear tilaka. But what will YOU do if I defeat you? RN said, &#8220;You<br \/>\nwon&#8217;t defeat me. But if you do, I&#8217;ll stop writing.&#8221; The debate raged for 17<br \/>\ndays, and RN was almost defeated. That night he went to Lord Ranganatha and<br \/>\ncomplained &#8211; is this what you want? Lord said &#8211; don&#8217;t worry, he&#8217;ll surrender.<br \/>\nThe next morning RN came to the debate stage brimming with confidence. This<br \/>\nrattled YM so much he capitulated. He became Devaraja Muni and was also known<br \/>\nas Mannatha. RN would send people to him to become disciples. But though he<br \/>\nwas put in a big matha building by RN himself, he finally broke that building<br \/>\nto dust. He wrote two important literatures: Jnana-sara (essence of knowledge<br \/>\nabout Krsna) and Prameya-sara (taking shelter of lotus feet of spiritual<br \/>\nmaster).<\/p>\n<p>RN went to Tirupati and lived by the Alwar Tank, but he didn&#8217;t want to go up<br \/>\nto the top of the mountain. Sailapurna told him not to stay longer than 3<br \/>\ndays unless he had service; otherwise he should go back to preach. SP<br \/>\ninstructed RN for 1 year; at the end, SP gave RN Govinda (SP&#8217;s disciple). But<br \/>\njust outside Rangaksetra Govinda got sick from separation from his spiritual<br \/>\nmaster and ran back to Tirupati; however, SP told him, &#8220;We don&#8217;t feed cows<br \/>\nthat have been sold.&#8221; Govinda used to make SP&#8217;s bed and lay in it to test it;<br \/>\nwhen RN expressed surprise at this, G said, &#8220;Yes, let me go to hell, but it<br \/>\nmust be good for my spiritual master.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>RN went up to Kasmir and acquired an old text of Vedanta-sutra; though someone<br \/>\nstole it, his disciple Kuresa had memorized it.<\/p>\n<p>A priest bribed a brahmin to put poison in RN&#8217;s bhiksa (RN went to 7 different<br \/>\nhouses daily for begging alms). But when the wife gave it over, she was<br \/>\nlooking at the ground, and so RN looked and saw &#8220;visha&#8221; was written there. He<br \/>\nstopped begging and thus stopped eating. Gosthipurna came to see him; in the<br \/>\nhot sands of the Kaveri riverback, RN paid obeisances, but since KP didn&#8217;t say<br \/>\nanything, RN didn&#8217;t get up for one hour. After that one disciple jumped under<br \/>\nRN to protect him from the sand. GP said, &#8220;This man will be your cook, for he<br \/>\nputs your well-being before his own.&#8221; Later that priest put poison in<br \/>\ncaranamrta for RN; RN could tell because the priest&#8217;s hand was shaking when he<br \/>\nspooned it out. RN said, &#8220;Oh so first you put poison in my food, now you&#8217;re<br \/>\ntrying my drink. But this time I&#8217;ll take it, for it is the Lord&#8217;s footwash.<br \/>\nAnd watch &#8211; I won&#8217;t die. I am a snake &#8211; you can&#8217;t kill a snake by giving him<br \/>\npoison.&#8221; He drank and split.<\/p>\n<p>He cruised around India to establish pancharatra. But Lord Jagannatha said,<br \/>\n&#8220;Not here.&#8221; RN said, &#8220;It&#8217;s gotta be.&#8221; He called in the pandits and defeated<br \/>\nthem; told them I&#8217;m sending for Sri Vaisnava brahmins to show you how to do<br \/>\npuja. Balaram threw him to Kurmaksetra. But inbetween time he was sent to<br \/>\nMayapur where he saw Lord Caitanya.<\/p>\n<p>Saivites argued that Srinivasa of Tirupati is actually Siva; RN came and<br \/>\ndefeated them. They said, &#8220;Show practically.&#8221; The king was p.o.&#8217;d but RN<br \/>\nsaid, bring weapons to offer; the next morning, they saw Lord had accepted<br \/>\nconch and disc. The Saivites accused, &#8220;He&#8217;s a yogi&#8221;, but the king said,<br \/>\n&#8220;Look, if you had any power, you could done that too, if it was true. And even<br \/>\nif it is true, it just means RN is better than you.&#8221; He told them not to live<br \/>\nwithin 3000 miles around his kingdom, and prevented the establishment of any<br \/>\nother Deity for 14 miles around Tirupati.<\/p>\n<p>Dhanurdasa and wife story.<\/p>\n<p>While taking bath, he used to put his arm around Dhanurdasa; but they<br \/>\ncriticized. RN tore up their kaupins; stealers came through tiles of roof.<\/p>\n<p>Chola King Chidambaram, a Saivite, ruled that all scholars had to sign &#8220;Nobody<br \/>\nis above Siva.&#8221; One of his ministers was a blooped disciple of Kuresa, and he<br \/>\nsaid &#8220;Just get RN and K to sign, then everybody will sign.&#8221; When soldiers<br \/>\ncame to Sri Rangam to fetch RN, K disguised himself as sannyasi and said, &#8220;I<br \/>\nam RN&#8221;, MP said &#8220;I&#8217;m his guru&#8221;, K&#8217;s daughter said, &#8220;I&#8217;m his sister.&#8221; Kuresa<br \/>\nwrote &#8220;The Krosadi is above Siva.&#8221; Meanwhile, to bewilder the Chola king, the<br \/>\nBrahmanas sent a prostitute who did the hunchy-punchy with him for 3 days;<br \/>\nthey could take off with the Govinda Devaraja Deity.<\/p>\n<p>RN had to run away. On a mountain, they saw hunters dancing around a fire. A<br \/>\nboy was sent to check them out &#8211; &#8220;Hey, these are Vaisnava bro&#8217;s!&#8221; A disciple<br \/>\nof Kanchipurna had preached to them.<\/p>\n<p>After that they met a woman named Shailaachala-ambha in a remote village; she<br \/>\nhad taken initiation 10 yrs earlier in Sri Rangam. After meeting RN she went<br \/>\non a fast demanding that her Buddhist husband should surrender to RN. 10,000<br \/>\nBuddhists came to debate with him; from behind a curtain he answered all their<br \/>\nquestions in a Sesa form. One disciple looked behind the curtain and was<br \/>\nblinded for 10 days.<\/p>\n<p>Thus the local king became RN&#8217;s disciple: Vitthalanath. RN here excavated the<br \/>\nSampat Kumar Deity.<\/p>\n<p>On the way back to Sri Rangam, Mahapurna (who had been blinded with Kuresa)<br \/>\ndied. Kuresa was stopped from returning to Sri Rangam by Chola king&#8217;s<br \/>\nsoldiers who didn&#8217;t want RN&#8217;s disciples at that temple; the local brahmanas<br \/>\nwere working with the soldiers for this goal. Hearing all this, RN prayed to<br \/>\nNarasimha &#8211; &#8220;Kill that demon!&#8221; The Chola king was preparing to raze RN&#8217;s<br \/>\nmatha when his throat got infested with worms; krimikantha. RN told Kuresa<br \/>\nto pray to Varadaraja for the return of his sight; K prayed that his<br \/>\nex-disciple goes where he goes. So RN prayed to VR, &#8220;Give him sight&#8221;, and it<br \/>\nhappened. Back in SR, K asked Sri Ranganatha to go to Vaikuntha; Lord said<br \/>\nyes and all those related to you and those related to them. RN was in ecstasy<br \/>\nbecause he is related also as guru.<\/p>\n<p>RN gave disciples final instructions. Take shelter of my disciple Parasara<br \/>\nBhatta for siddhanta; everything is in my books.<\/p>\n<p>In Caitanya-lila he returned as Ananta Brahmana; did pancharatric<br \/>\nworship to Laxmi Narayana; was friend of Vallabha-misra. He attended the<br \/>\nmarriage of LC with Laxmipriya; he remembered everything of his identity and<br \/>\nthe Lord&#8217;s; he went mad, breaking up marriage ceremony by chanting Gaura<br \/>\nGaura. The marriage celebrants took him back to his house and kept him<br \/>\ninside; there he jumped, and his hands came throughout the grass roof.<br \/>\nIn that ecstasy, he went back home, back to Godhead.<\/p>\n<p>\nVisistadvaita philosophy compared to Acintya-bheda-abheda:<\/p>\n<p>Visistadvaita: Abbt:<\/p>\n<p>Supreme truth is Visnu, Krsna avatara Krsna is ST, Visnu form of that<\/p>\n<p>Vaikuntha is supreme, Goloka part Goloka supreme, Vaikuntha part<\/p>\n<p>Bhokta, bhogyam, Prerita are different Bhokta, Bhogya energies of Prerita<\/p>\n<p>Brahman (vastu) has Visesa, which are Bheda-abheda is acintya<br \/>\ncit and acit: RN refuted bhedabheda as<br \/>\nmonism.<\/p>\n<p>Cit-acit form body of Lord, who is the Internal, External, Marginal<br \/>\nSupreme Soul (objection: how is something<br \/>\nhappening that is not in accordance with<br \/>\nLord&#8217;s Own desire; their answer &#8211; lila)<\/p>\n<p>Jnana and Karma are processes by which Don&#8217;t touch Jnana, Karma for anything<br \/>\nwe take favors of Lord; by Prappati we<br \/>\ngive service.<\/p>\n<p>Brahman does not transform into living Lord&#8217;s energies transform, but Lord<br \/>\nentity or material energy is always the same (touchstone)<br \/>\n\u001a<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; When RN returned, he saw the house was empty and his wife&#8217;s nervousness. RK tried to explain by beginning, &#8220;That woman is too proud.&#8221; When he understood what had happened he just ran out of &hellip; <a class=\"kt-excerpt-readmore\" href=\"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/four-vaisnava-sampradayas-notes-3\/\" aria-label=\"Four Vaisnava Sampradayas &#8211; notes 3\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":81,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,140],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-21461","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-english","category-area2"],"publishpress_future_action":{"enabled":false,"date":"2026-05-04 01:39:46","action":"change-status","newStatus":"draft","terms":[],"taxonomy":"category","extraData":[]},"publishpress_future_workflow_manual_trigger":{"enabledWorkflows":[]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21461","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/81"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=21461"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21461\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=21461"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=21461"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.isvara.org\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=21461"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}